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    This page is aimed to get you started with creating new pages or editing existing pages on the FeministWiki.


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    == What is a wiki anyway? ==
     
    A wiki is a knowledge base like an encyclopedia, but possibly specialized to a certain topic.  Ours is specialized on Feminism.
     
    The core idea behind a wiki is that anyone can edit the content or add new content.  However, the FeministWiki puts a limit on that since there are so many anti-feminist trolls out in the wild who would wreak havoc on the wiki if they could edit it.  Therefore, instead of allowing everyone to edit, the FeministWiki only allows its members to edit the wiki, although everyone can read it.
     
    Still, since there is the principle of shared authorship over the content, you should not write on the wiki like you would be writing in a blog, on Facebook, or for a newspaper, and you should not feel personally attached to the content you create, as anyone who comes across it might make changes to it (to improve it, hopefully).  Similarly, you should feel free to edit any page to improve it, without worrying about being rude to its original author.
     
    The tone of the wiki should be impartial, objective, and factual, even if it clearly takes a feminist viewpoint.  For a typical example on how the tone on the wiki should be, you can simply read some Wikipedia articles on feminism for instance:
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism
     
    == What topics are OK to write about? ==
     
    Anything you think is relevant to feminism in some way, or which you think other feminists might appreciate knowing more about.
     
    It should be obvious from the [[Main Page]] that the FeministWiki is primarily intended for classical and radical feminist ideologies, and the member base will correspond to that.  As such, you don't have to worry about liberal/queer feminists taking offense at your writing.  However, if there is a topic that's likely to be contentious or divisive among classical or radical feminists, please be careful when writing about it so as not to create unnecessary friction.  After all, we all want the FeministWiki to be a comfortable space for its members.
     
    == What if there's a disagreement? ==
     
    Every page on the FeministWiki has an associated Discussion page, also called a Talk page.  If you make a change to an article, but the previous author objects and reverts the change, then you can write something on the discussion page of the article in question to start a discussion where you can exchange your views and come to a mutual agreement on how the content should be.  For instance, you could ask on the discussion page why the previous author reverted the changes you made, then contact them to make sure they see your inquiry on the discussion page.
     
    The easiest way to start a new discussion on a talk page is to click the "Add section" button on the top right.
     
    == How do I contact another editor? ==
     
    While the FeministWiki infrastructure offers many ways for members to keep in touch (email, forum, chat), the wiki also has its own system for talking to another editor, which might be the best option when you want to talk about something on the wiki, especially since you can't know whether the other editor uses any of the additional communication methods offered by the FeministWiki.
     
    To talk to another editor through the wiki, click on the little "(talk)" link beside their username.  This will open the "talk page" of that editor.  At the top right you should see a button that says "Add topic", which you can click to add a new section to the user's discussion page.
     
    When you want to discuss about a disagreement in a specific article of the FeministWiki, then it's actually best to use that article's Discussion page for this, instead of writing on another editor's Discussion page.  However, the editor who was involved in the dispute may forget to check the discussion page of that article, so you can write a small notice on the user's discussion page to tell them that you would like to start a discussion in the article's discussion page.
     
    == How exactly do we "talk" to each other on a discussion page? ==
     
    When you click on "Add section" in a discussion page, it asks you for a header and the content, but what when you want to reply to someone, or add a further comment to the discussion section you created?
     
    To insert a comment in a discussion page, you write what you want to write somewhere (usually at the end of the section you want to comment on), then put four tilde symbols (~) at the end, which makes the FeministWiki sign off that text with your name.  Here's an example on how the signature at the end will look:
     
    This line is a comment left by Social Justice Wizard! [[User:SocJusWiz|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
     
    When a discussion drags on, it can become difficult to follow the flow of discussion.  Typically, when you respond to someone else's comment, then you prepend your answer with a colon (:) symbol at the start of your text.  This makes the wiki software display your comment with an indentation.  When you want to make a further comment on something that's already indented, you add a second colon, and so on.  Example:
     
    First comment. [[User:SocJusWiz|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
    :Replying to the first comment, here's a second comment. [[User:SocJusWiz|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
    ::And a third comment, which in turn replies to the second comment. [[User:SocJusWiz|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
    :But this comment responds to the first one again, not the second or third. [[User:SocJusWiz|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
    :This ALSO responds to the first comment, not any of the others. [[User:SocJusWiz|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
    ::Now this comment responds to the one directly above it, because it's one layer more indented than it. [[User:SocJusWiz|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
     
    If it looks a bit confusing, don't worry, you'll get used to it.  The example is a bit stupid anyway, since every comment is signed off with the same name.
     
    For reference, here's an archived discussion page from Wikipedia that you can look at to get a feeling for how a real discussion between multiple people might look:
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Radical_feminism/Archive_6
     
    == I would like to contribute, but I worry about my grammar skills ==
     
    Don't worry, just add the content!  Since this is a wiki, someone with better language skills might come across and improve the grammar.  Just make sure that people can understand what you're writing.
     
    == Do I have to pedantically cite everything? ==
     
    It's best for all factual claims to be cited with evidence, but it's not absolutely crucial.  If you've read something which you're sure was from a reliable source, but you don't have a link to it anymore, feel free to mention it anyway, and hopefully someone who comes across it will fact-check it and add the necessary citations.
     
    == I have more questions! ==
     
    Feel free to ask the technician: https://twitter.com/@socjuswiz

    Revision as of 22:56, 30 August 2018

    This page is aimed to get you started with creating new pages or editing existing pages on the FeministWiki.

    What is a wiki anyway?

    A wiki is a knowledge base like an encyclopedia, but possibly specialized to a certain topic. Ours is specialized on Feminism.

    The core idea behind a wiki is that anyone can edit the content or add new content. However, the FeministWiki puts a limit on that since there are so many anti-feminist trolls out in the wild who would wreak havoc on the wiki if they could edit it. Therefore, instead of allowing everyone to edit, the FeministWiki only allows its members to edit the wiki, although everyone can read it.

    Still, since there is the principle of shared authorship over the content, you should not write on the wiki like you would be writing in a blog, on Facebook, or for a newspaper, and you should not feel personally attached to the content you create, as anyone who comes across it might make changes to it (to improve it, hopefully). Similarly, you should feel free to edit any page to improve it, without worrying about being rude to its original author.

    The tone of the wiki should be impartial, objective, and factual, even if it clearly takes a feminist viewpoint. For a typical example on how the tone on the wiki should be, you can simply read some Wikipedia articles on feminism for instance:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism

    What topics are OK to write about?

    Anything you think is relevant to feminism in some way, or which you think other feminists might appreciate knowing more about.

    It should be obvious from the Main Page that the FeministWiki is primarily intended for classical and radical feminist ideologies, and the member base will correspond to that. As such, you don't have to worry about liberal/queer feminists taking offense at your writing. However, if there is a topic that's likely to be contentious or divisive among classical or radical feminists, please be careful when writing about it so as not to create unnecessary friction. After all, we all want the FeministWiki to be a comfortable space for its members.

    What if there's a disagreement?

    Every page on the FeministWiki has an associated Discussion page, also called a Talk page. If you make a change to an article, but the previous author objects and reverts the change, then you can write something on the discussion page of the article in question to start a discussion where you can exchange your views and come to a mutual agreement on how the content should be. For instance, you could ask on the discussion page why the previous author reverted the changes you made, then contact them to make sure they see your inquiry on the discussion page.

    The easiest way to start a new discussion on a talk page is to click the "Add section" button on the top right.

    How do I contact another editor?

    While the FeministWiki infrastructure offers many ways for members to keep in touch (email, forum, chat), the wiki also has its own system for talking to another editor, which might be the best option when you want to talk about something on the wiki, especially since you can't know whether the other editor uses any of the additional communication methods offered by the FeministWiki.

    To talk to another editor through the wiki, click on the little "(talk)" link beside their username. This will open the "talk page" of that editor. At the top right you should see a button that says "Add topic", which you can click to add a new section to the user's discussion page.

    When you want to discuss about a disagreement in a specific article of the FeministWiki, then it's actually best to use that article's Discussion page for this, instead of writing on another editor's Discussion page. However, the editor who was involved in the dispute may forget to check the discussion page of that article, so you can write a small notice on the user's discussion page to tell them that you would like to start a discussion in the article's discussion page.

    How exactly do we "talk" to each other on a discussion page?

    When you click on "Add section" in a discussion page, it asks you for a header and the content, but what when you want to reply to someone, or add a further comment to the discussion section you created?

    To insert a comment in a discussion page, you write what you want to write somewhere (usually at the end of the section you want to comment on), then put four tilde symbols (~) at the end, which makes the FeministWiki sign off that text with your name. Here's an example on how the signature at the end will look:

    This line is a comment left by Social Justice Wizard! SocJusWiz (talk) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)

    When a discussion drags on, it can become difficult to follow the flow of discussion. Typically, when you respond to someone else's comment, then you prepend your answer with a colon (:) symbol at the start of your text. This makes the wiki software display your comment with an indentation. When you want to make a further comment on something that's already indented, you add a second colon, and so on. Example:

    First comment. SocJusWiz (talk) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)

    Replying to the first comment, here's a second comment. SocJusWiz (talk) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
    And a third comment, which in turn replies to the second comment. SocJusWiz (talk) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
    But this comment responds to the first one again, not the second or third. SocJusWiz (talk) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
    This ALSO responds to the first comment, not any of the others. SocJusWiz (talk) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)
    Now this comment responds to the one directly above it, because it's one layer more indented than it. SocJusWiz (talk) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)

    If it looks a bit confusing, don't worry, you'll get used to it. The example is a bit stupid anyway, since every comment is signed off with the same name.

    For reference, here's an archived discussion page from Wikipedia that you can look at to get a feeling for how a real discussion between multiple people might look:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Radical_feminism/Archive_6

    I would like to contribute, but I worry about my grammar skills

    Don't worry, just add the content! Since this is a wiki, someone with better language skills might come across and improve the grammar. Just make sure that people can understand what you're writing.

    Do I have to pedantically cite everything?

    It's best for all factual claims to be cited with evidence, but it's not absolutely crucial. If you've read something which you're sure was from a reliable source, but you don't have a link to it anymore, feel free to mention it anyway, and hopefully someone who comes across it will fact-check it and add the necessary citations.

    I have more questions!

    Feel free to ask the technician: https://twitter.com/@socjuswiz