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	Since a wiki hosts community-curated content, it's crucial for editors to communicate with each other, especially when there's disagreement on the content of a page.		Since a wiki hosts community-curated content, it's crucial for editors to communicate with each other, especially when there's disagreement on the content of a page.

			Of course you can always use your favorite social media platform (Twitter, Facebook, reddit) to talk to other FeministWiki editors, if they have an account on the same platform. Otherwise you might also be able to find them on the FeministWiki web forum, on the FeministWiki chat platform, or you could send an e-mail to their FeministWiki e-mail address (like "janedoe@feministwiki.org"). See the related help pages on how to use those methods.

			However on the wiki, there is also a primitive but tightly integrated way to talk to each other: talk pages. There are article talk pages and user talk pages.

	=== Talk pages ===		=== Talk pages ===
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	When you've created a new topic on the talk page to discuss something with other editors, you might want to make sure that they're notified of this. See the next section for instructions on how to directly contact an editor, so you can make sure that they see the topic you started in the talk page.		When you've created a new topic on the talk page to discuss something with other editors, you might want to make sure that they're notified of this. See the next section for instructions on how to directly contact an editor, so you can make sure that they see the topic you started in the talk page.

	See the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Talk_pages MediaWiki help page on "talk pages"] for more details on the ~~top~~ of talk pages.		See the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Talk_pages MediaWiki help page on "talk pages"] for more details on the topic of talk pages.

	=== Directly contacting another editor ===		=== Directly contacting another editor ===

Technician: /* I have more questions! */

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I have more questions!

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	=== I have more questions! ===		=== I have more questions! ===

	Feel free to ask the technician via email at admin~~[at]~~feministwiki.org or ~~through Twitter here:~~ https://twitter.com/@FeministWiki		Feel free to ask the technician via email at admin@feministwiki.org or via [https://twitter.com/@FeministWiki @FeministWiki] on Twitter.

Technician: /* Communication between editors */

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Communication between editors

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	Since a wiki hosts community-curated content, it's crucial for editors to communicate with each other, especially when there's disagreement on the content of a page.		Since a wiki hosts community-curated content, it's crucial for editors to communicate with each other, especially when there's disagreement on the content of a page.

			=== Talk pages ===

	Every page on the FeministWiki has an associated Discussion page, also called a Talk page. If you make a change to an article, but someone objects and reverts the change, you can write something on the discussion page of the article to hopefully reach a mutual agreement on how the content should be.		Every page on the FeministWiki has an associated Discussion page, also called a Talk page. If you make a change to an article, but someone objects and reverts the change, you can write something on the discussion page of the article to hopefully reach a mutual agreement on how the content should be.

Technician em 19h41min de 20 de abril de 2019

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	Note that our wiki looks very similar to Wikipedia because it uses the same software, called [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki MediaWiki].		Note that our wiki looks very similar to Wikipedia because it uses the same software, called [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki MediaWiki].

	== ~~How do I contribute~~ to the wiki? ==		== Contributing to the wiki ==

			This section will guide you through the absolute basics of being a wiki editor, with links to more detailed help pages from the MediaWiki software.

			You can try out the editing functions by freely editing the [[Help:Sandbox\|Sandbox]] page, where you don't need to worry about breaking things.

	=== Creating new pages ===		=== Creating new pages ===

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	Also, try not to create pages for very narrowly focused topics. Remember that it's supposed to be like an encyclopedia, and not like a blog (or Facebook or Twitter).		Also, try not to create pages for very narrowly focused topics. Remember that it's supposed to be like an encyclopedia, and not like a blog (or Facebook or Twitter).

	== Communication ~~with other~~ editors ==		== Communication between editors ==

	Since a wiki hosts community-curated content, it's crucial for editors to communicate with each other, especially when there's disagreement on the content of a page.		Since a wiki hosts community-curated content, it's crucial for editors to communicate with each other, especially when there's disagreement on the content of a page.
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	See the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Talk_pages MediaWiki help page on "talk pages"] for more details on the top of talk pages.		See the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Talk_pages MediaWiki help page on "talk pages"] for more details on the top of talk pages.

	=== ~~How do I contact~~ another editor? ===		=== Directly contacting another editor ===

	While the FeministWiki infrastructure offers many ways for members to keep in touch (email, forum, chat), the wiki also has its own system for talking to another editor, which might be the best option when you want to talk about something on the wiki, especially since you can't know whether the other editor uses any of the additional communication methods offered by the FeministWiki.		While the FeministWiki infrastructure offers many ways for members to keep in touch (email, forum, chat), the wiki also has its own system for talking to another editor, which might be the best option when you want to talk about something on the wiki, especially since you can't know whether the other editor uses any of the additional communication methods offered by the FeministWiki.

Technician: /* How exactly do we "talk" to each other on a discussion page? */

2019-04-20T19:39:36Z

How exactly do we "talk" to each other on a discussion page?

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	[[File:help-wiki-07-user-talk.png\|thumb\|none\|900px\|Example message to Admin by writing to their user talk page. Don't forget to use the "Add topic" function so you can add a Subject line. In this example, I forgot to sign off my comment with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> (see next section).]]		[[File:help-wiki-07-user-talk.png\|thumb\|none\|900px\|Example message to Admin by writing to their user talk page. Don't forget to use the "Add topic" function so you can add a Subject line. In this example, I forgot to sign off my comment with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> (see next section).]]

	=== ~~How exactly do we "~~talk~~" to each other on a discussion~~ page? ===		=== Details on talk page usage ===

	When you click on "Add section" in a discussion page, it asks you for a header and the content, but what when you want to reply to someone, or add a further comment to the discussion section you created?		When you click on "Add section" in a discussion page, it asks you for a header and the content, but what when you want to reply to someone, or add a further comment to the discussion section you created?

	To insert a comment in a discussion page, you write what you want to write somewhere (usually at the end of the section you want to comment on), then put four tilde symbols (~) at the end, which makes the ~~FeministWiki~~ sign off that text with your name. ~~Here~~'s ~~an example on how~~ the ~~signature at the end will look:~~		To insert a comment in a discussion page, you write what you want to write somewhere (usually at the end of the section you want to comment on), then put four tilde symbols (~) at the end, which makes the wiki software sign off that text with your name. (It's best practice to always sign off comments with the four tilde symbols, also when creating a new talk topic.)

	~~This line is~~ a ~~comment left by Social Justice Wizard! [[User:SocJusWiz\|SocJusWiz]] ([[User~~ talk~~:SocJusWiz\|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)~~		The following example shows how a new talk topic is created.

	~~When a discussion drags on, it can become difficult to follow the flow of discussion~~. ~~Typically, when you respond to someone else's comment, then you prepend your answer with~~ a ~~colon (:) symbol at~~ the ~~start of your text. This makes the wiki~~ software ~~display your comment~~ with ~~an indentation. When you want to make a further comment on something that's already indented, you add a second colon, and so on~~. ~~Example:~~		[[File:help-wiki-08-signing-off.png\|thumb\|none\|900px\|Adding a talk topic and having the software sign it with my username.]]

	~~First comment. [[User:SocJusWiz\|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz\|talk]]) 23:56~~, ~~30 August 2018 (CEST)~~		After saving that, it will look like this:
	~~:Replying to the first comment, here's a second comment. [[User:SocJusWiz\|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz\|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)~~
	~~::And a third comment, which in turn replies to the second comment. [[User:SocJusWiz\|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz\|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)~~
	~~:But~~ this ~~comment responds to the first one again, not the second or third. [[User~~:~~SocJusWiz\|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz\|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)~~
	~~:This ALSO responds to the first comment, not any of the others. [[User:SocJusWiz\|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz\|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)~~
	~~::Now this comment responds to the one directly above it, because it's one layer more indented than it. [[User:SocJusWiz\|SocJusWiz]] ([[User talk:SocJusWiz\|talk]]) 23:56, 30 August 2018 (CEST)~~

	~~If it looks~~ a ~~bit confusing~~, ~~don't worry~~, ~~you'll get used~~ to it. The ~~example is a bit stupid anyway, since every comment~~ is ~~signed off with the same name~~.		[[File:help-wiki-09-signed.png\|thumb\|none\|900px\|Note how the signature and timestamp were added automatically. It also contains a quick link to the user's talk page.]]

			When replying to someone's comment on a talk page, the response is customarily prepended with a colon (:) sign, which makes the wiki software represent the reply with some indentation.

			[[File:help-wiki-10-reply.png\|thumb\|none\|900px\|To reply to someone, simply edit the page, and add your comment below theirs, with one colon (:) more than their comment. (A single colon if theirs had none.)]]

			After saving, that will look like this:

			[[File:help-wiki-11-replied.png\|thumb\|none\|900px\|The colon symbol is turned into one level of indentation.]]

	For reference, here's an archived discussion page from Wikipedia that you can look at to get a feeling for how a real discussion between multiple people might look:		For reference, here's an archived discussion page from Wikipedia that you can look at to get a feeling for how a real discussion between multiple people might look:

	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Radical_feminism/Archive_6		https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Radical_feminism/Archive_6

			For more details on how to edit talk pages, see the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Talk_pages MediaWiki help page about talk pages].

	== Other concerns ==		== Other concerns ==

Technician: /* How do I contact another editor? */

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How do I contact another editor?

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	When you want to discuss about a disagreement in a specific article of the FeministWiki, then it's best to use that article's talk page for this, instead of writing on another editor's user talk page. A typical strategy is to add a topic to the regular talk page, and then just write a small notification on the user's talk page where you can link them to the original talk page.		When you want to discuss about a disagreement in a specific article of the FeministWiki, then it's best to use that article's talk page for this, instead of writing on another editor's user talk page. A typical strategy is to add a topic to the regular talk page, and then just write a small notification on the user's talk page where you can link them to the original talk page.

	[[File:help-wiki-07-user-talk.png\|thumb\|none\|900px\|Example message to Admin by writing to their user talk page. Don't forget to use the "Add topic" function so you can add a Subject line.]]		[[File:help-wiki-07-user-talk.png\|thumb\|none\|900px\|Example message to Admin by writing to their user talk page. Don't forget to use the "Add topic" function so you can add a Subject line. In this example, I forgot to sign off my comment with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> (see next section).]]

	=== How exactly do we "talk" to each other on a discussion page? ===		=== How exactly do we "talk" to each other on a discussion page? ===

Technician: /* How do I contact another editor? */

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How do I contact another editor?

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	While the FeministWiki infrastructure offers many ways for members to keep in touch (email, forum, chat), the wiki also has its own system for talking to another editor, which might be the best option when you want to talk about something on the wiki, especially since you can't know whether the other editor uses any of the additional communication methods offered by the FeministWiki.		While the FeministWiki infrastructure offers many ways for members to keep in touch (email, forum, chat), the wiki also has its own system for talking to another editor, which might be the best option when you want to talk about something on the wiki, especially since you can't know whether the other editor uses any of the additional communication methods offered by the FeministWiki.

	To talk to another editor through the wiki, click on the little "(talk)" link beside their username. This will open the "talk page" of that editor. At the ~~top right you should see a button that says~~ "Add topic", ~~which~~ you can ~~click~~ to ~~add a new section~~ to ~~the user's discussion~~ page.		To talk to another editor through the wiki, click on the little "(talk)" link beside their username. This will open the "user talk page" of that editor, which is a lot like the regular talk pages we've covered in the previous section. You will find the same "Add topic" button at the top of this user talk page, where you can write something that the editor will most certainly see when they log in to the wiki, because they will be automatically notified of additions to their personal talk page.

	When you want to discuss about a disagreement in a specific article of the FeministWiki, then it's ~~actually~~ best to use that article's ~~Discussion~~ page for this, instead of writing on another editor's ~~Discussion~~ page. ~~However, the editor who was involved in the dispute may forget~~ to ~~check~~ the ~~discussion~~ page ~~of that article~~, ~~so you can~~ write a small ~~notice~~ on the user's ~~discussion~~ page ~~to tell~~ them ~~that you would like~~ to ~~start a discussion in~~ the ~~article~~'~~s discussion page~~.		[[File:help-wiki-07-1-user-talk-link.png\|thumb\|none\|900px\|One way to reach an editor's user talk page is by opening the "View history" section of an article where they've made changes, then click on the "talk" link to the right of their name.]]

			When you want to discuss about a disagreement in a specific article of the FeministWiki, then it's best to use that article's talk page for this, instead of writing on another editor's user talk page. A typical strategy is to add a topic to the regular talk page, and then just write a small notification on the user's talk page where you can link them to the original talk page.

			[[File:help-wiki-07-user-talk.png\|thumb\|none\|900px\|Example message to Admin by writing to their user talk page. Don't forget to use the "Add topic" function so you can add a Subject line.]]

	=== How exactly do we "talk" to each other on a discussion page? ===		=== How exactly do we "talk" to each other on a discussion page? ===

Technician: /* Communication with other editors */

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	Since a wiki hosts community-curated content, it's crucial for editors to communicate with each other, especially when there's disagreement on the content of a page.		Since a wiki hosts community-curated content, it's crucial for editors to communicate with each other, especially when there's disagreement on the content of a page.

	Every page on the FeministWiki has an associated Discussion page, also called a Talk page. If you make a change to an article, but ~~the previous author~~ objects and reverts the change, ~~then~~ you can write something on the discussion page of the article ~~in question to start a discussion where you can exchange your views and come~~ to a mutual agreement on how the content should be~~. For instance, you could ask on the discussion page why the previous author reverted the changes you made, then contact them to make sure they see your inquiry on the discussion page~~.		Every page on the FeministWiki has an associated Discussion page, also called a Talk page. If you make a change to an article, but someone objects and reverts the change, you can write something on the discussion page of the article to hopefully reach a mutual agreement on how the content should be.

	The ~~easiest way to start a new discussion on a talk page is to click~~ the "~~Add section~~" button on the top ~~right~~.		The following image shows the "Discussion" button (link) at the top of a page.

	See the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Talk_pages MediaWiki help page on "talk pages"] for more details on the ~~subject~~.		[[File:help-wiki-05-talk.png\|thumb\|none\|700px\|The "Discussion" button is marked in yellow.]]

			Talk pages are just like normal pages. When they don't have any content yet, their link is red (seen in the image above) and clicking on the link directly brings you to the editing interface so you can create the talk page. Oftentimes, the talk page will already be existent because other editors used it before. '''In both cases''' it's ideal to use the "Add topic" button to create a new discussion topic within the page. This ensures that the discussion is given its own "Subject" header and doesn't interfere with other discussions that might already exist on the page.

			[[File:help-wiki-06-add-topic.png\|thumb\|none\|700px\|The "Add topic" button is marked in yellow.]]

			Clicking on "Add topic" will give you an editing page that looks pretty much identical to a regular editing page. The only differences are: there will be an extra field for the "Subject", and the contents of the editing box will always be empty and automatically appended to the existing talk page when you click "Save" instead of replacing existing content.

			When you've created a new topic on the talk page to discuss something with other editors, you might want to make sure that they're notified of this. See the next section for instructions on how to directly contact an editor, so you can make sure that they see the topic you started in the talk page.

			See the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Talk_pages MediaWiki help page on "talk pages"] for more details on the top of talk pages.

	=== How do I contact another editor? ===		=== How do I contact another editor? ===

Technician em 16h43min de 20 de abril de 2019

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	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Radical_feminism/Archive_6		https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Radical_feminism/Archive_6

	== I would like to contribute, but I worry about my grammar skills ==		== Other concerns ==

			=== I would like to contribute, but I worry about my grammar skills ===

	Don't worry, just add the content! Since this is a wiki, someone with better language skills might come across and improve the grammar. Just make sure that people can understand what you're writing.		Don't worry, just add the content! Since this is a wiki, someone with better language skills might come across and improve the grammar. Just make sure that people can understand what you're writing.

	== Do I have to pedantically cite everything? ==		=== Do I have to pedantically cite everything? ===

	It's best for all factual claims to be cited with evidence, but it's not absolutely crucial. If you've read something which you're sure was from a reliable source, but you don't have a link to it anymore, feel free to mention it anyway, and hopefully someone who comes across it will fact-check it and add the necessary citations.		It's best for all factual claims to be cited with evidence, but it's not absolutely crucial. If you've read something which you're sure was from a reliable source, but you don't have a link to it anymore, feel free to mention it anyway, and hopefully someone who comes across it will fact-check it and add the necessary citations.

	== I have more questions! ==		=== I have more questions! ===

	Feel free to ask the technician via email at admin[at]feministwiki.org or through Twitter here: https://twitter.com/@FeministWiki		Feel free to ask the technician via email at admin[at]feministwiki.org or through Twitter here: https://twitter.com/@FeministWiki